diff --git a/src/core/manager.c b/src/core/manager.c
index 594e7bc2c7..b627c04c12 100644
--- a/src/core/manager.c
+++ b/src/core/manager.c
@@ -4350,7 +4350,7 @@ static bool manager_journal_is_running(Manager *m) {
         u = manager_get_unit(m, SPECIAL_JOURNALD_SERVICE);
         if (!u)
                 return false;
-        if (!IN_SET(SERVICE(u)->state, SERVICE_RELOAD, SERVICE_RUNNING))
+        if (!UNIT_IS_ACTIVE_OR_RELOADING(unit_active_state(u)) || SERVICE(u)->state == SERVICE_EXITED)
                 return false;
 
         return true;
diff --git a/src/shared/logs-show.c b/src/shared/logs-show.c
index b01cb67acd..119c48936a 100644
--- a/src/shared/logs-show.c
+++ b/src/shared/logs-show.c
@@ -1715,9 +1715,11 @@ int add_matches_for_unit_full(sd_journal *j, MatchUnitFlag flags, const char *un
                 /* Look for messages from the service itself */
                 (r = journal_add_match_pair(j, "_SYSTEMD_UNIT", unit)) ||
 
-                /* Look for messages from PID 1 about this service */
+                /* Look for messages from PID 1 about this service. Note that the actual match is placed
+                 * on init.scope rather than _PID=1, as we want to match messages from helper processes
+                 * forked off by init too. */
                 (r = sd_journal_add_disjunction(j)) ||
-                (r = sd_journal_add_match(j, "_PID=1", SIZE_MAX)) ||
+                (r = sd_journal_add_match(j, "_SYSTEMD_CGROUP=/init.scope", SIZE_MAX)) ||
                 (r = journal_add_match_pair(j, "UNIT", unit)) ||
 
                 /* Look for messages from authorized daemons about this service */